Showing posts with label T-34M. Show all posts
Showing posts with label T-34M. Show all posts

Thursday, 24 September 2020

T-34 Variants

"Tactical-technical requirements for the T-34 "SU-34" SPG

T-34 (mass production)
T-34 lightened (SPG)
T-34 thickened
T-34M lightened (SPG)
Mass (tons)
27.5
23.5-24
25.5
28-28.5
19-20
Armament*
76 mm or 57 mm gun
85 mm gun**
57, 76, or 85 mm gun
57, 76, or 85 mm gun
Ammunition
77 rounds for the 76 mm gun

85 rounds for the 57 mm gun
45-50 rounds for the 85 mm gun
107 rounds for the 76 mm gun

110 rounds for the 57 mm gun

65-70 rounds for the 85 mm gun
Same
65-70 rounds for the 85 mm gun
Crew
4
4
5
5
5
Armour





Front
45
25-30
45
60
30
Side
45
25-30
45
60
25-30
Roof
13-16
16
20
30
16
Floor
13-16
10
20
30
16
Turret
45
25
45
60
25
All other characteristics of the tanks are the same.

* All tanks also have a machine gun for self defense.
** 85 mm gun without a turret with a limited traverse of +/-15 degrees.

Tuesday, 8 September 2020

Gaining Weight

"NKSM Proposal
Regarding individual items in the Tactical Technical Requirements of the T-60* tank proposed by the GABTU
  1. The combat weight of the tank is set at 26 tons.
  2. The floor of the tank must be 20 mm thick in the front and 16 mm thick in the rear.
  3. The roof of the tank must be 20 mm thick above the fighting compartment and 16 mm elsewhere.

Thursday, 30 July 2020

Thickness Problems

"Opinion of a member of the model commission and representative of the Ilyich factory

The following needs to be considered when discussing and making a decision regarding the production of the A-43 tank with thicker armour (50-60 mm):
  1. This thickness will require the use of 7-8 ton ingots to produce the sides of the tank, which the Ilyich factory doesn't have equipment to work with and development of which needs to begin right away.

Saturday, 23 May 2020

Pre-War Potential

As worldwide tank building practice shows, it takes about five years to develop a new tank in peace time from the development of the requirements to the final product. The tank often changes significantly between envisioning and production, as happened with the T-34. The initial requirements for the BT-20 tank composed in mid-October of 1937 described a convertible drive tank weighing 13-14 tons with 20-25 mm of armour and armed with a 45 mm gun or 76 mm L-10 gun. Three years later, the tank that went into production was fully tracked, weighed 25.6 tons, had an L-11 gun and 45 mm thick armour.

The mass grew gradually during development along with the improvement of the tank's characteristics. However, the T-34 was supposed to change significantly by the summer of 1941. This T-34M was the result of changing requirements. The start of the Great Patriotic War got in the way of developing even a prototype, but the T-34M became the starting point for a whole series of tanks and had an effect on the production T-34.

Tuesday, 11 February 2020

T-34M Requirements

"To the Chief of the Red Army GABTU, Lieutenant General of the Tank Forces, comrade Ya.N. Fedorenko
December 30th, 1940
#18239ss

Copy: to the Chairman of the Committee of Defense of the Council of Commissars of the USSR, Marshal of the Soviet Union, comrade Voroshilov

In carrying out order #428 of the Committee of Defense issued on November 19th, 1940, I present the reasons for switching to a torsion bar suspension. The coil spring suspension of the T-34 tank is reliable, but has the following drawbacks:
  1. Significant oscillations make firing on the move difficult.
  2. The suspension spring and guide rod shafts constrict the internal space of the tank, impede free placement of components, and reduce the amount of ammunition that can be carried.
  3. Cutouts must be made in the sides of the tank for the suspension arms that weaken the resistance of the armour.

Monday, 18 November 2019

Experimental Work at Factory #183 March 1941

"To the Chief of the 3rd Department of the BTU, Military Engineer 1st Class comrade Afonin

Summary report of experimental work performed at factory #183 in March 1941
  1. Trials of cooling fans: three types of cooling fans entered trials.
    1. 1st variant: instead of blade supports special ribs were used. A vehicle with this fan travelled for 800 km. Trials will continue in April.
    2. 2nd variant differs from the production type only in the riveted rim that is the same as the BT-7M type. A vehicle with this fan travelled for 400 km. rials will continue in April.
    3. 3rd variant: production fan attached to the flywheel with a friction clutch to slip in cases of rapid changes of RPM in the driveshaft. A vehicle with this fan travelled for 80 km. Trials will continue in April.
  2. Trials of the constant mesh gearbox were completed. This gearbox shows no advantages over the production type, and the top speed in 4th gear dropped by 5 kph, which is not desirable. There were also a number of defects found in several parts. It is pointless to implement this design into production.
  3. New types of cast driver's hatches with different types of thermal treatment were tested by fire. One type showed good results in terms of ballistic resistance. The decision to put it into production is being made by the BTU.
  4. Trials of a new type of turret ring with a different bearing runner to tighten tolerances. Trials showed that tolerances are tighter, but the turret can jam. Work on other variants is being performed.
  5. 8 types of air cleaners were produced. One of the types showed the best results (95% clearance) and was sent to Leningrad for government trials.
  6. Reinforced Hadfield steel tracks were produced and tested. The assembled tracks made it to 2500 km after which the pin eyes were severely worn and the tracks began to break, the same thing as with production tracks.
  7. Major modernization of the T-34: the model is complete. The design bureau is producing blueprints for the experimental design.
Military Representative of the GABTU, Military Engineer 3rd Class, Alekseev"

Monday, 16 September 2019

Factory #183 Experiments, January-February 1941

"Report on the execution of experimental work on armoured vehicles from January 1st to February 20th, 1941

Tractor "42" on the T-34 chassis
Due date: September 1940
2x prototypes were built in November of 1940. Factory trials were supposed to complete in December 1940. A number of gearbox, tracks, winch, etc. defects were discovered during trials. Presently, the defects are being corrected, after which trials will resume.

T-34 tank modernization
The design bureau is developing a modernized T-34 with a new hull, turret, gearbox, main clutch, and suspension. A draft project is being worked on. Individual components are being built. A model is being built.

Sunday, 22 February 2015

T-34 Modernization

"Decree of the Committee of Defense within the Council of Commissars of the USSR
Moscow, Kremlin

On the production of T-34s with torsion bar suspensions

The NKSM (factory #183) must produce two experimental T-34 tanks with the following features by April 1st, 1941:
  1. Individual torsion bar suspension.
  2. Road wheels with internal shock absorption.
  3. 1600 mm turret ring with protection from jamming and lead fragments.
  4. A commander's cupola on the main turret with a dead zone of at most 10 meters.
  5. A 5 man crew, of which 3 are in the turret (commander, gunner, loader) and two are in the hull (driver, radio operator).
  6. Maximum speed: 65-70 kph.
  7. New 600 hp V-5 engine (modernized V-2-K).
  8. Other tactical-technical characteristics remain the same as defined by decree #428 on December 19th, 1940.
  9. Perform factory trials by April 1st, 1941. Present the tanks for proving grounds trials on May 1st, 1941. 
NSKM and NKO must supply the KO with suggestions on producing this improved T-34 tank.

NKSM (Mariupol factory) must produce two hulls and two turrets by February 1st, 1941.

Chair of the Committee of Defense within the Council of Commissars, K. Voroshilov
Secretary of the Committee of Defense, M. Pugayev"

Wednesday, 10 December 2014

Case for T-34 Torsion Bars

"To the Chair of the Committee of Defense at the Council of Commissars of the USSR, Marshal of the Soviet Union, comrade Voroshilov

Fulfilling the decree of the Committee of Defense #428 from November 19th, 1940, I present my thoughts on the transition to torsion bars on the T-34.

The springs (candle) on the T-34 are reliable, but have the following drawbacks:
  1. The suspension shakes, which reduces the accuracy of fire on the move.
  2. The wells in which the springs are housed reduce the space inside the tank, which impedes the placement of components and reduces the ammunition capacity.
  3. In order to allow for movement of the vertical balancers, the side plates have cuts in them, which reduces the robustness of armour.
The torsion bars, by preliminary calculations, give:
  1. A 20% increase in the volume of the fighting compartment.
  2. A reduction of the suspension weight by 300-400 kg.
  3. Increase in fuel capacity from 465 L to 750 L, increasing the range by 60-100 km.
  4. The hull robustness is increased (due to a lack of cuts).
  5. The reliability of torsion bars has been proven on the KV and T-40.
  6. Factory #183 has the means to make torsion bars.
According to decree #848 issued on March 31, 1940, the width of the T-34 turret has been increased by 160 mm, and further increase without increasing the size of the turret ring does not increase the accuracy of firing.

In order to improve the combat performance of the T-34, I ask that NKSM (factory #183) produces two experimental T-34s with torsion bars, a wider turret ring, a commander's cupola, and increased speed.

I ask that you approve the project.

Marshal of the Soviet Union, G. Kulik.
January 17th, 1941"

Wednesday, 10 July 2013

T-50: Kirov Factory

The task to develop a new light tank for infantry support fell to two Soviet factories: factory #174, and the Kirov factory. While, ultimately, a factory #174 prototype was accepted by the Red Army, the story of the Kirov prototype is no less interesting. Despite its rejection, a small number of these tanks were built (I can find reference to two prototypes, at least), and defended the Kirov factory during the siege of Leningrad.

The Kirov T-50 is well outlined in a note written by an engineer from factory #174, complaining about it.

"From December 24th to December 27th, 1940, I, as a member of the Model Commission, participated in examining the technical project for the T-50 Kirov factory tank. As I do not agree with the conclusions of the commission regarding this project, I include my list of issues here.

Here is the list of points that make me question the judgement of the commission:
  1. The main goal of the project was not met: the weight. My suggestion on this point was declined, and the commission accepted the project, based on the fact that the main characteristics were satisfactory, and proposed that the Kirov factory should reduce the weight. Experience shows that, unless the project is radically altered, it will not be possible to meet the weight requirement in production.
  2. Despite the large amount of time provided for this project, many components are insufficiently developed and tested, even for a prototype. This is pointed out, in a somewhat nicer way, by the Model Commission. The most serious complaints have to do with the hull, gearbox, and cooling system. These issues are the most pressing. The unprotected final drive gears and vision ports are secondary issues.
  3. The analysis of the two projects (Kirov and #174) provided enough material for an objective comparison between the two, and a correct and final decision, which the commission was incapable of doing. This can be seen when comparing the two projects:
    1. The overall layout is the same. The Kirov tank is 5400 [Note: units are in millimeters] in length, while ours is 5000. The width of the Kirov hull is 1475, and ours is 1525. This obviously makes the Kirov project heavier.
    2. Hull and turret: the Kirov factory uses a turret ring with a 1500 mm wide turret ring, which is 100 mm larger than our project. This does not lead to a corresponding increase in the turret ring opening (the hull is wider by 100 mm), and this results in many organic defects in the vehicle.
      The most vulnerable turret platform armour plates are installed at an angle of 20 degrees, which leads to them being penetrated by 37-45 mm shells from 325-450 meters (compared to our project with angles of 40-50 degrees, removing the danger from these shells at any distance). The hull is heavier than the project allows.
      The turret has vertical armour angles of 15 degrees (compared to our 20 degrees), which can be penetrated from 450-500 meters. Our project has much greater weight conservation, which allows us to increase the turret armour to 45 mm and protect it from the aforementioned shells from further than 50 meters.
      The narrow hull, despite the larger turret ring, makes the vehicle very crowded. It is not possible to install a flamethrower or additional fuel tanks, and makes operating the vehicle very inconvenient.
      According to our information, the hull was not changed according to advice from the commission, which will lead to an increase in mass later. The roof above the driver, despite the correct thickness of 30 mm and the commission suggested thickness of 25 mm, is only 20 mm, which leads to a reduction in weight at the cost of robustness. 
    3. On the transmission: the Kirov gearbox has 8 gears forward, compared to the 4 gears in the project specification. In theory, this is supposed to give an improvement, but practically only leads to a 5-gear gearbox that is difficult to use. The necessary complete re-working of this component will lead to the re-working of the entire transmission. Our factory has developed several types of gearboxes (5-gear, 8-gear), as well as an experimental planetary gear one, and any one can be installed if there is a need for it.
      The Kirov project transmission is also too large, with an insufficient armouring of the reductor gears, which gives a very dangerous weak spot.
    4. On the suspension: the projects are analogous. The Kirov factory uses a layout that we use on the "126" and "T-50" tanks. Aside from this, their tank uses shock absorbers like those on the PzIII, which is undesirable, given the difficulty of their production. Our vehicle can also be stabilized by these shock absorbers, but that is not necessary, since other measures were taken.
    5. On the engine: the Kirov project uses a creative approach of using a radiator around the fan, at the air exhaust. This prototype is not supported by practical experiments, and is insufficient for this task due to how easily it gets clogged, and a high resistance. The latter is confirmed by the experience of factories #37 and #174.
      There is also insufficient space to install one of these assemblies on each side of the engine. During winter testing, these defects will likely not be detected. It is necessary to test in the summer, during hot and dusty conditions, which will lose time, and result in many modifications to the tank, which will only make it heavier.
    6. On armament: the Kirov project has a third machine gun, with no sight, stationary in the hull to the side of the driver.
      This is a completely useless item, which cannot provide any kind of accuracy, and turns a machinegun into a child's toy.
      This defect was noted by the armament subcommission (GABTU - comrade Gorohov, Gen. Staff - comrate Pribytkov), and it was suggested that it be removed. However, the commission chair comrade Korobkov suggested that it be left in, and noted only as "3rd machine gun" with no mention of its uselessness.
      Our factory's project, due to the decreased weight, can be modified with useful a 3rd machine gun that has an optical sight, which will be done.
      In other cases, the Kirov factory project requires significant reworking.
...
Chief Engineer of the #174 Voroshilov factory, Ginzburg"

As you can see, the tanks ended up being quite different, despite still being called "T-50". The book Konstruktor Boyevih Mashin, a history of the Kirov factory, points out things that Ginzburg glossed over. Namely, that the Kirov prototype was 13.8 tons (so "only" 300 kg overweight), and was capable of reaching 65 kph (compared to the #174's prototype's maximum speed of 52 kph) with its 300 hp engine. 

However, Ginzburg's complaints were legitimate, and, on April 5th, 1941, Fedorenko's decision on the matter was in favour of factory #174. He also writes about some interesting proposals from Kirov factory and factory #183:

"From the two T-50 prototypes built by factory #174, and the one prototype built by the Kirov factory, a #174 prototype is accepted.

The Kirov factory proposes that the thickness of armour be increased to 60 mm, and a 76 mm gun be added, increasing the mass of the tank to 25.5 tons, with a maximum speed of 40 kph with a 300 hp V-4 engine.
Factory #183 has investigated the T-34, and proposes that it could be built with torsion bars, which, with 45 mm thick armour, results in a 25 ton tank, and with 60 mm armour, a 28 ton tank. The armament of the tank would be a 76 mm gun, and the 600 hp V-2K engine would offer a maximum speed of 50 kph.
Comparing the two projects, it can be seen that the two tanks have the same armour and armament, at a negligible difference in weight. The T-34 has an 21.4 hp/ton, versus the T-50's 11.7 hp/ton. 
Having two tanks meant for the same purpose only makes the supply chain more complicated. The T-50, as an infantry support tank, is already being built by factory #174.
I deem it unnecessary to build a T-50 with 60 mm of armour, due to the following reasons:
  1. The T-34 with torsion bars has superior characteristics.
  2. There is no point in needlessly increasing the amount of different tank types in use.
  3. This project would distract the Kirov factory from their main tasks.
Chief of the GABTU of the Red Army, Lieutenant-General of the Tank Forces, Fedorenko."

Kirov Factory's last contribution to the T-50 project was by its chief engineer, Kotin. During a review to simplify the construction of the T-50 tank on December 1941, he suggested that the commander's cupola be removed. Factory #174 declined that modification. 

Sunday, 19 May 2013

Tank Plans for 1941

I've written before that the USSR was planning to make the KV-3 tank its primary heavy tank in 1941, and one of the KV-3, 4, or 5 in 1942, but just how many KV-3s were they planning to build? Was it going to be just a few pre-production models, or a full scale manufacture?


Full scale manufacture it is! GABTU's plans for 1941 order the Kirov factory to produce 500 KV-3s, 400 KV-1s, and 100 KV-2s. Those KV-3s are quite expensive, 40% more expensive than a KV-1.

Plans change, of course. In reality, the Kirov factory built 611 KV-1s, 204 KV-2s, and just one KV-3, if you count the T-150 as a KV-3.

Going through unfulfilled orders, another unbuilt tank pops up, the T-34M. The T-34M (factory designation A-43) was a modernized version of the T-34, with features that would be seen in Soviet medium tanks several years after, like torsion bars, a 5 man crew, a commander's cupola, a planetary gear transmission, and internal shock absorption.

Source: https://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/1833508.html

The scan is a bit cut off, but the production of T-34s wanes to only 40 units over the month of September, and is fully replaced by T-34Ms by October. It is interesting to point out that 380 out of the 800 T-34Ms were armed with a ZiS-4 gun, instead of the F-34 gun that the overwhelming majority of T-34s received. 300 of the tanks were also to be equipped with a flamethrower, aside from their main guns (65 F-34 armed T-34Ms and 235 T-34Ms with a ZiS-4). That was one way of compensating for the deficiencies of the 57 mm HE shell.

We also see that, unlike the KV-3, the T-34M is not that much more expensive than the tank it is replacing. As for the prices themselves, they shouldn't be relied on in any kind of analysis. The document itself notes that these prices are just approximate (since production has not started yet). Additionally, this is way before most simplification and cost-cutting measures were taken. According to Ural Train Factory (UVZ) data, a T-34 cost 246 900 rubles in 1941, and 142 100 rubles in 1944.